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« on: May 18, 2001, 01:46:14 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Graham, you know that I use Becky! Also that I have 6.5.8ckt. I have become
used to using the tray icon for encrypting and/or signing my mail and
posts. Can I use 7X in this manner? IE use the current window option? Would
this be a viable workaround to the lack of Becky! support?[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....gkAn0LJ
WrkfqDJgoP7WttHoclh3xBtR
=nUZM
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2001, 01:14:02 AM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Its not so much a lack of Becky support, but a lack of NAI support.
No mailer other than those for which NAI has written a plugin (OE,
Outlook,Eudora,Pegasus) will have a plugin for PGP 7.x[p]Yes, you can use the PGPtray function, it will work equally as well,
but do you want another firewall?[p]If you are going to turn this off, a better bet would be to use the
GnuPG plug in with the PGP plug in, as I do.  You can have all the
cryptographic resources of PGP 7.x, a better version of PGPnet if you
want it, PGPdisk support.  If you are considering that option, contact
me first.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.76
Comment: Please encrypt and sign for internet security[p]iD8DBQE7Bg9mIwtBZOk1250RAlMyAKDW8xhsLidW81gpDEq3UMlWld5wqwCfeGwY
n6rf+tjDtW+1PP8iK1Ay6Gg=
=tDk/
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----[p]
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2001, 05:19:17 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]I guess you caught me thinking about upgrading for no other reason than to
upgrade. I really don\'t use the B2 plugin so thought this would be a good
idea (be careful when you catch yourself saying "well it seemed like a good
idea at the time")[p]And you are correct, I definitely don\'t want another firewall. Have too
many as it is lol. [p]Now as for PGPnet. I don\'t know and have absolutely no idea how it can be
used or if it should be used. I\'ve looked through the help files and am
still confused. So perhaps you can take me to school on this one.
1) what is it?
2) what does it do?
3) what can it do?
4) how do I use it?
5) why would I need to use it?
6) How can it increase my security?[p]I guess that\'s enough questions to start with. I posted instead of writing
you because I think everyone should know these things. [p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....esAoL31
ag8QnfIdfFHfL0vgcOxg/g3v
=YQns
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2001, 05:22:15 PM »

I posted on this topic, and it hasn\'t come up.  So here is the posting again![p]Its not so much a lack of Becky support, but a lack of NAI support.  No mailer other than those for which NAI has written a plugin (OE, Outlook,Eudora,Pegasus) will have a plugin for PGP 7.x[p]Yes, you can use the PGPtray function, it will work equally as well, but do you want another firewall?[p]If you are going to turn this off, a better bet would be to use the GnuPG plug in with the PGP plug in, as I do.  You can have all the cryptographic resources of PGP 7.x, a better version of PGPnet if you want it, PGPdisk support.  If you are considering that option, contact me first.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2001, 05:38:49 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]PGPnet is the proprietary name for NAIs VPN (Virtual Personal Network)
system.  PGP 6.5.8ckt has a version that was improved over the old PGP
6.5.8.[p]This will enable you to have encrypted traffic with another user of
the same version of PGPnet (at least!) with the encryption being
totally transparent to you.  I have tested this with AIM, and it does
work, but it is only of use if there are two points of contact (me and
one other person).[p]In PGP 7.x, the VPN was changed to incorporate the firewall, and it is
a requirement that you run the VPN so that you can run the firewall.[p]Although it is being improved all the time, PGPnet has caused many
users a great deal of headaches.  Rick\'s view is that is badly coded
(though improving) and it is best to leave it alone; my view is that
if you want to try to use it, go for the PGP 6.5.8ckt version,
otherwise don\'t bother.[p]Now as to Becky\'s plug-in; how do you deal with messages that are in
PGP/MIME, or don\'t you have any? I regularly get them from Linux users
and it is a FUNCTION OF THE MUA to decipher these.  PGPB2 and BkGnuPG
do an excellent job of dealing with PGP/MIME.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.76
Comment: Please encrypt and sign for internet security[p]iD8DBQE7BvZPIwtBZOk1250RAhKpAJ9u4eek3t2ucpKYbqg4ZIL3praJOgCgjErA
yoT74jnZwHH2I36kC63/WGw=
=TJV/
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----[p]
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2001, 05:41:52 PM »

Incidetally CM, your sig reads:[p]*** PGP Signature Status: bad
*** Signer: Michael A. Wood <coldmoon66@wave-net.net>
*** Signer Key ID: 0xA7090AB6
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: 7DCB 135F B9F2 0705 028F  F92D A214 FEB6 A709 0AB6
*** Signed: 19/05/01 23:21:33
*** Verified: 19/05/01 23:41:35
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***[p]Could somebody verify my sig from the BB
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2001, 06:57:50 PM »

Graham, something is wrong as yours also shows:
*** PGP Signature Status: bad
*** Signer: Graham Todd <graham.todd@ntlworld.com>
*** Signer Key ID: 0xE935DB9D
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: F843 8105 3594 2E26 07B8  E5FB 230B 4164 E935 DB9D
*** Signed: 19/05/01 6:40:15 PM
*** Verified: 19/05/01 7:57:25 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***[p][p]*** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2001, 06:59:49 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]You wight as well check mine[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....a
WoKTjJOZcPoo57KfqpQFj/cq
=N7pn
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2001, 07:03:07 PM »

I had not checked this before.
Bug in 6.5.8ckt ?[p](Edited by MickeyTheMan at 8:03 pm on May 19, 2001)
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2001, 07:16:53 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Hey Mickey, If you can tell me how, I\'ll be happy to check yours as
well.
How\'s mine?[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: *Use White-Out for E-Mail!*[p]iQA/AwUBOwcOakaGRkDMeIi5EQLeOgCdHKtUxIeI/N7Sd9cDnWv+6Y/zazEAoMEi
0gzW0H9EkRtrSAFQeDFSS3QN
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2001, 07:23:58 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Ok-this is weird...
I figured out how to check the entire thread, and everyone\'s sig shows
up as good with the exception of CM\'s second post.
All the others were fine.
???:confused:??? [p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: *Use White-Out for E-Mail!*[p]iQA/AwUBOwcQEkaGRkDMeIi5EQL3cwCcClPAeRtrZ22RipbZ5yC6+DM/6xQAoLio
q0Nz8aqFir2G+GbHhmDJeceB
=LC/t
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2001, 07:41:22 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Doc, the i\'m doing something wrong as your sig is bad, as well[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....xEAn2br
dahSK2/79FSTeVS179Ghy8oN
=eeO9
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2001, 09:29:47 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Very strange, some of the posts are bad some good. I show bad for the one
that Graham pointed out, but show good for other posts that some show as
bad. Doc you are showing bad for me on this page. HMMM maybe we should all
send some e-mail  and get the signatures worked out. Also maybe we should
generate some new keys to test whether there are some problems.[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....s8AnRIh
QU1QVu5UVfVJan2pwOiIhghz
=gJUO
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2001, 09:38:18 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]This time only mine showed up as bad. Both of yours are good.
That\'s very odd, since mine was good on the last page. I\'m suspecting a
BB function versus PGP as being at fault.
Of course, we never gave it this type of test at Becky\'s, so I can\'t
say for sure. Becky\'s uses different BB software, anyway.[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: *Use White-Out for E-Mail!*[p]iQA/AwUBOwcvhkaGRkDMeIi5EQKX3wCg2lKmJXlUdnmViRHv3LHrnc4kqz8AniRv
Ikiff5e/D13muYoDMPFwinuL
=8Rii
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2001, 09:42:04 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]My last sig showed up as good-could it be that PGP doesn\'t recognize
the difference, since the sigs change each time, yet are on the same
page?
Let\'s see...[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: *Use White-Out for E-Mail!*[p]iQA/AwUBOwcwcUaGRkDMeIi5EQLlLACg/YlsDYDmweMB12lWGucqYvuGdLwAnRm7
d+QjzM5yEJetb8tGt6Vt+dP7
=uRyv
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Never eliminate finite possibilities - the odds only get worse.

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