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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2001, 09:44:26 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]Well, that blows that theory. My last 2 showed up as good. I\'m stuck...[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: *Use White-Out for E-Mail!*[p]iQA/AwUBOwcw/kaGRkDMeIi5EQLLfgCgtAapMfhkx3D3EwdfUUqJ2ZxN9NwAoOMV
At6LEe4Lz4w2r4SOA0fXA8Dz
=MF0/
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2001, 10:08:55 PM »

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1[p]well expect some mail. I have been using one set for too long and needed to
generate some new keys anyways. [p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....AUAoLBv
HAcPDGe7E8v0H8zWIiAwmRt+
=42W1
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2001, 10:39:09 PM »

I\'m sure Graham will come up with some explanation shortly. It\'s 5:40am at his place
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2001, 10:49:12 PM »

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Quote: from Graham on 6:38 pm on May 19, 2001
-----BEGIN PGP
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Hash: SHA1[p]PGPnet is the proprietary name for NAIs VPN (Virtual Personal Network)
system.  PGP 6.5.8ckt has a version that was improved over the old PGP
6.5.8.[p]This will enable you to have encrypted traffic with another user of
the same version of PGPnet (at least!) with the encryption being
totally transparent to you.  I have tested this with AIM, and it does
work, but it is only of use if there are two points of contact (me and
one other person).[p]In PGP 7.x, the VPN was changed to incorporate the firewall, and it is
a requirement that you run the VPN so that you can run the firewall.[p]Although it is being improved all the time, PGPnet has caused many
users a great deal of headaches.  Rick\'s view is that is badly coded
(though improving) and it is best to leave it alone; my view is that
if you want to try to use it, go for the PGP 6.5.8ckt version,
otherwise don\'t bother.[p]Now as to Becky\'s plug-in; how do you deal with messages that are in
PGP/MIME, or don\'t you have any? I regularly get them from Linux users
and it is a FUNCTION OF THE MUA to decipher these.  PGPB2 and BkGnuPG
do an excellent job of dealing with PGP/MIME.
- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.76
Comment: Please encrypt and sign for internet security[p]iD8DBQE7BvZPIwtBZOk1250RAhKpAJ9u4eek3t2ucpKYbqg4ZIL3praJOgCgjErA
yoT74jnZwHH2I36kC63/WGw=
=TJV/
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[p]
Ok, so what you are saying about PGPnet is that you need a third party PIM
to use it? Would it be usable by a messenger attatched to a bbs? If not can
ICQ or any of the other pim\'s be used in a safe and secure way so that they
can only be accessed by a "ring" of trusted users? IE say a group involved
with a BBS wanted to have an instant messanger service where issues could
be disscussed in real time, but noone else was privy to the conversation,
nor had any indication that the users were on line. Also that their
conversation was totally encrypted. I hope that you see where i\'m going
with this and that Doc and the other principles here see it as well.[p]As for your other question, NO, I don\'t receive this kind of mail now. But
with certain things that are happening, and with my plans for future
communications, this has become a concern that I need to address. I want to
get my ducks in a row and have a ready presentation to others in my planned
"ring" so that I can just give the instructions to them and we can set this
thing up and go. TIA[p]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/[p]iQA....SoAoNVo
5EH2vH0M2c/79Y2pUj7benU1
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2001, 11:51:07 PM »

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alnntaPuNruDEfKkCasOQhqC
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2001, 03:45:57 AM »

Doc, its easy.  Select the block between the PGP (include all lines) and copy to the clipboard.[p]Go to PGPtray and Clipboard, then Verify and Decrypt.[p]It looks as though my suggestion of signing mail was no good.  The BB munges the sig.  It checks out everywhere else :)
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2001, 04:05:54 AM »

No, to answer your question.  PGPnet can only be used for one on one at the moment.  It is much more productive, in my view, to use PGP-ICQ from Samopal software through ICQ, but I have doubts about this handling multiple users.  as I said, I HAVE used PGPnet with PGP 6.5.8ckt and it DOES work, but its better in my view to turn it off and have PGP-ICQ when you want it.[p]Now to PGP/MIME.  The problem with this is that over the years that its been around many MUAs have tried to incorporate it and until there was a set standard (RFC2015) messages in this format could not be deciphered by many.  Even today, on Windows, it is viewed with suspicion and generally not incorporated with mailers, and it is a function of the MUA.  On other OS, it seems that when messages are not clearsigned, they are signed to RFC2015, and that means PGP/MIME.  In her two plugins, Becky has the most complete PGP/MIME to RFC2015 setup that I have seen; indeed, PGPB2 was originally set up to decrypt and verify PGP/MIME.[p]As to the signatures being bad, I suspect this is a feature of the BB, inthat HTML code is inserted (even for line breaks) and this munges some sigs. and leaves others OK.  PGP looks at the whole of the message and so will come up sometimes as bad.  It happened on the Becky BB too.[p]There is only one thing I wish that PGP 6.5.8ckt would provide and that is better handling of GnuPG keys.  The error box that keeps coming up is a royal PITA, but other than that it meets most of my needs, especially alongside GnuPG
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2001, 04:12:59 AM »

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As to the signatures being bad, I suspect this is a feature of the BB, inthat HTML code is inserted (even for line breaks) and this munges some sigs. and leaves others OK.  PGP looks at the whole of the message and so will come up sometimes as bad.  It happened on the Becky BB too.[p]
[p]Looks like is to do with emoticons being incuded.  And extra spaces.  Lets leave emoticons out of it for a while, and see if our sigs verify.
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